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chanukya
02-02 07:34 PM
90000--please post the link.
90,000 VISAS
Our contacts in Washington have told us that there is a growing chance of a bill to recapture as many as 90,000 visas. The language of the draft bill that we've seen calls for a full recapture of the unused visas from 2000-04.
EVERYONE should contact their Congressman and let them know just how important this is.
posted by Hammond Law Group LLC @ 6:23 PM
90,000 VISAS
Our contacts in Washington have told us that there is a growing chance of a bill to recapture as many as 90,000 visas. The language of the draft bill that we've seen calls for a full recapture of the unused visas from 2000-04.
EVERYONE should contact their Congressman and let them know just how important this is.
posted by Hammond Law Group LLC @ 6:23 PM
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mjdup
12-18 06:34 PM
thanks fromnaija for the enormous contribution,
I see that there have been nearly 190 views but contribution only from 7 or 8 :(
190 x 20 = 3800 ! common folks, its very much possible..
I see that there have been nearly 190 views but contribution only from 7 or 8 :(
190 x 20 = 3800 ! common folks, its very much possible..
greencard_fever
07-17 09:01 PM
Thanks a lot to all members for being with us in this struggle. We have tasted our first big success this year. Credit goes to each and every IV member. We were all affected by the visa bulletin fiasco and this is our victory. This is a victory for all our members and we must rejoice.
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Job Well Done IV..kudos to you...big bow to you...
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Job Well Done IV..kudos to you...big bow to you...
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Goodintentions
04-16 10:38 PM
Dear All,
The idea behind this thread was to consider the option of a Time Bound Path for he beneift of the existing EB2 / EB3 folks who have filed Labour / I - 140 / 485.
I think the purpose of this thread is totally lost.
I am not sure how STEM or F1 or whatever should be a discussion here.
Anything we start here ends up in an acrimonious debate and many a time becomes very unpleasant and personal.
What are we all here for? Is it not our idea to to bring some relief to the EB immigrants?
Once again I request one and all to kindly refrain from unpleasant debates and think of working together for the welfare of the EB2 / EB3 community.
If we have our objectives clear and work towards a common goal, we sure can achieve success!
Kindly try to understand!!!
The idea behind this thread was to consider the option of a Time Bound Path for he beneift of the existing EB2 / EB3 folks who have filed Labour / I - 140 / 485.
I think the purpose of this thread is totally lost.
I am not sure how STEM or F1 or whatever should be a discussion here.
Anything we start here ends up in an acrimonious debate and many a time becomes very unpleasant and personal.
What are we all here for? Is it not our idea to to bring some relief to the EB immigrants?
Once again I request one and all to kindly refrain from unpleasant debates and think of working together for the welfare of the EB2 / EB3 community.
If we have our objectives clear and work towards a common goal, we sure can achieve success!
Kindly try to understand!!!
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ItIsNotFunny
03-09 11:27 AM
everything in Pappu's message sounds good to me.
Itisnotfunny,
Should we go ahead and contribute what we pledged (those of us that haven't already paid) using the tool at the top of the screen?
thanks,
Yes, Everybody please do this ASAP!
Itisnotfunny,
Should we go ahead and contribute what we pledged (those of us that haven't already paid) using the tool at the top of the screen?
thanks,
Yes, Everybody please do this ASAP!
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bigboy007
05-11 11:11 AM
This is best at ppl things narrow minded , since you are EB2 you want to have this.. EB3 can port to EB2 then EB3 will never get spillovers.. and if you have latest PD you might get in to this issue... So prepare now for another admin fix. shouldnt we stop looking at bigger picture and start only on the smaller things like this ? Can you support with numbers how EB2 can get line cleared ? If that is true then there is no need of Recapture... becoz when EB2 goes current all numbers flow to EB3.
As gc_check explained, all EB2 with PD<2007/7 will get the green card 2 years earlier if this can be fixed. I do not understand why IV can not discuss it with USCIS.
As gc_check explained, all EB2 with PD<2007/7 will get the green card 2 years earlier if this can be fixed. I do not understand why IV can not discuss it with USCIS.
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pappu
12-18 07:11 PM
pappu, pls let me know, if u received the fund. Also, one small suggestion, we can just maintain a small excel sheet, to just see who (just the user id and not the actual name) contributed and how much money they contributed just in this campaign. Cos, I hate to say this, I just dont want to be around those who want to have a free ride from all the hard work that IV group is putting in. Please everyone please donate. If you are reading this post, if you have not contributed earlier, please contribute. Dont you want IV to become strong financially when fighting this tough case. They need all the help they can get. So, please anyone who is going through this forum and not contributed earlier, please do contribute. This will help us go a long way. Thank you and god bless IV.
Thanks. It is tough to keep a sheet. but if people just post a note on the forum that they paid it will help keep a tab on #of contributions. It can be verified and we will know who has contributed.
Thanks. It is tough to keep a sheet. but if people just post a note on the forum that they paid it will help keep a tab on #of contributions. It can be verified and we will know who has contributed.
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ragz4u
04-19 03:29 PM
Sometimes we get approached by journalists who need a story the very next day. They are looking for specific subjects for the story though.
An example is say the Investors Business Daily (a financial daily). A reporter might come to us and ask us if we have anyone from the Finance sector who is suffering due to retrogression and is willing to speak up about it. They might also add that we need only Eb1/Eb2 category folks.
When this happens, we are in a mad scramble to find folks who fit this criteria so that we do not lose this chance.
Another example might be of a Medical Journal looking for doctors stuck due to retrogression.
We are constantly getting requests like this but cannot capitalize on it because we do not have enough stories already available to fit the criteria.
So please send in your stories. It need not be earth shattering at all (most of us are mere mortals). You never know when a reporter is specifically looking for a story similar to yours and you might just tilt the balance in favor of skilled immigrants.
An example is say the Investors Business Daily (a financial daily). A reporter might come to us and ask us if we have anyone from the Finance sector who is suffering due to retrogression and is willing to speak up about it. They might also add that we need only Eb1/Eb2 category folks.
When this happens, we are in a mad scramble to find folks who fit this criteria so that we do not lose this chance.
Another example might be of a Medical Journal looking for doctors stuck due to retrogression.
We are constantly getting requests like this but cannot capitalize on it because we do not have enough stories already available to fit the criteria.
So please send in your stories. It need not be earth shattering at all (most of us are mere mortals). You never know when a reporter is specifically looking for a story similar to yours and you might just tilt the balance in favor of skilled immigrants.
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03-24 07:50 AM
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What is the procedure in India for getting this corrected ? Would i need the Newspaper clipping from Local US newspaper here..? I was not sure of this. Please help me.
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reachinus
07-05 12:52 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EG957
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RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez Thanks for giving us
hope for few hours on July 1st and
taking it away(I-485 Reversal). We
enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope
USCIS recovers from its insanity soon.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
EGONZA0EG957
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez Thanks for giving us
hope for few hours on July 1st and
taking it away(I-485 Reversal). We
enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope
USCIS recovers from its insanity soon.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
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anurakt
12-19 12:25 PM
Guys,
The collection so far shows 33.33% of the $60K target as of December 11th.
Friends I pledge a $500 donation as soon as the figures reaches 500 less than halfway ... i.e $29,500 and another again once the figure reaches 500 less of $60,000 i.e $59,500. Pappu or any of the core member please let me know once we touch this figures BY 31ST DECEMBER. Till then keep the marathon going.
LET'S SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN MAKE ME SHELL $1000 IN TOTAL.... :-))
Core members if need be , put my pledge on the main page... would like see if this forum has ba**s to make me shell out the $1000 bucks.....
MEMBERS ..YOU GOT TWO WEEKS TO SHOW SOME SPIRITS...CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES...LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN ACHEIVE .... I PERSONALLY BELEIVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A TESTIMONY OF OUR SPIRIT TO RESOLVE OUR ISSUE NEXT YEAR... IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN I AM 110% CERTAIN THAT WE WILL RESOLVE EVERYTHING NEXT YEAR....ELSE FORGET GREEN CARD .... PLEASE SIT AT HOME TILL YOUR HAIRS TURNED WHITE AND YOU NEED THOSE EXTRA SET OF TEETHS..... NO ONE CAN SAVE YOU....
CAN U TAKE THE CHALLENGE ?????
Only 9% away from my first $500 contribution as part of the pledge..... this forum is so slow.... I thought that by today noon I have to shell out $500...but doesn't looks the case...
Oh I forgot ! This forum is used to slow processing ...let it be GC or Contribution..... doesn't surprises me..... Our fraternity is used to slow things just like GC .... come guys /gals ..... show some speed....
The collection so far shows 33.33% of the $60K target as of December 11th.
Friends I pledge a $500 donation as soon as the figures reaches 500 less than halfway ... i.e $29,500 and another again once the figure reaches 500 less of $60,000 i.e $59,500. Pappu or any of the core member please let me know once we touch this figures BY 31ST DECEMBER. Till then keep the marathon going.
LET'S SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN MAKE ME SHELL $1000 IN TOTAL.... :-))
Core members if need be , put my pledge on the main page... would like see if this forum has ba**s to make me shell out the $1000 bucks.....
MEMBERS ..YOU GOT TWO WEEKS TO SHOW SOME SPIRITS...CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES...LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN ACHEIVE .... I PERSONALLY BELEIVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A TESTIMONY OF OUR SPIRIT TO RESOLVE OUR ISSUE NEXT YEAR... IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN I AM 110% CERTAIN THAT WE WILL RESOLVE EVERYTHING NEXT YEAR....ELSE FORGET GREEN CARD .... PLEASE SIT AT HOME TILL YOUR HAIRS TURNED WHITE AND YOU NEED THOSE EXTRA SET OF TEETHS..... NO ONE CAN SAVE YOU....
CAN U TAKE THE CHALLENGE ?????
Only 9% away from my first $500 contribution as part of the pledge..... this forum is so slow.... I thought that by today noon I have to shell out $500...but doesn't looks the case...
Oh I forgot ! This forum is used to slow processing ...let it be GC or Contribution..... doesn't surprises me..... Our fraternity is used to slow things just like GC .... come guys /gals ..... show some speed....
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sugaur
12-05 06:21 PM
If it were for some of the antiimmigrant folks, my friend you (sugaur) wouldn't be here a day longer. you would be "out" in a wink from this country. so dont consider yourself too supportive of anti-immigration. Even citizens are favoring resolving the ilegal immigration crisis by granting some legality to those who are here ilegally. Dont support ilegal immigration but atleast dont bash those who show support to resolving this crisis. you and me are mere temporary visitors here. please remember that your country is not this. you are here seeking prosperity and so are they. this country has a way of dealing with them and us and neither has been satisfactory so far. So my friend why side with one and sound righteous? Sympathy is universal and is shown even to the person going to be hanged. If ilegal immigration was such a big crime then why are the united states citizens debating about granting green cards to 11 million of these people here????? these people are neighbours and have been dependent on each other since ever.let us not meddle in their affairs. they assimilate better into the american culture than us.
1. I am not anti immigration, I am anti illegal immigration. You may not see a difference between the two but I assure you there is one. And no one can make me leave 'in a wink". Why? Because I am not illegal.
2. You are wrong in beliveing that majority of Americans want some amnesty for illegals. They dont, although some policticians have clearly made political calculations and believe that the demography of illegal immigrants will favour them in the polls.
3. You may believe that you are a temporary visitor here. This is home for me.
4. I just side with what I believe is right. That may sound being righteous to you.
5. Your sympathy is misguided again when directed towards condemend criminals. It should be directed towards there victims. I am curious, will you have sympathy for Kasab if he is hanged?
1. I am not anti immigration, I am anti illegal immigration. You may not see a difference between the two but I assure you there is one. And no one can make me leave 'in a wink". Why? Because I am not illegal.
2. You are wrong in beliveing that majority of Americans want some amnesty for illegals. They dont, although some policticians have clearly made political calculations and believe that the demography of illegal immigrants will favour them in the polls.
3. You may believe that you are a temporary visitor here. This is home for me.
4. I just side with what I believe is right. That may sound being righteous to you.
5. Your sympathy is misguided again when directed towards condemend criminals. It should be directed towards there victims. I am curious, will you have sympathy for Kasab if he is hanged?
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pappu
04-05 02:47 PM
Welcome to IV. There is no data available to us yet suggesting how many applicants that applied were for Masters quota. However masters quota would be definately filled very fast for you to apply this year before your OPT starts. We are trying hard to get an immigration bill bassed this year. This bill has a few provisons for international students in US universites and US educated students.
For a start read STRIVE act, for some of the provisions that will help students like yourself.
Hopefully with everyone's help we will succeed this year. Do join us in our efforts and encourage others you know to join in this community effort.
For a start read STRIVE act, for some of the provisions that will help students like yourself.
Hopefully with everyone's help we will succeed this year. Do join us in our efforts and encourage others you know to join in this community effort.
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03-09 10:46 AM
Wait for today EOB .... if you do not get a reply from IV go for the Paypal account. Nothing wrong in that
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Marphad
04-14 02:30 PM
As many are aware, there was a huge rush to buy and sell pre-approved labors during July-August 2007, when all the priority dates were suddenly made current. Tens of thousands of labors were sold by fraudulent consulting companies to many questionable GC seekers, who hadn�t even started the process till then.
It is those substituted labors which are clogging the pipelines now. Just think, last month EB3-I stood at November 2001. Now it is completely unavailable. It can�t possibly be because so many pending labors with such old priority dates suddenly got cleared this month, and beneficiary of these labors filed 140+485 together. I seriously doubt that a candidate whose labor is pending since such a long time is even keeping that GC process alive. In all likelihood he/she must have moved on in life.
There is only one explanation. These labors were already pre-approved. It is the attached I-140 on these labors that are getting approved rapidly. And the subsequent I-485 petitions on these applications are depleting the visa numbers.
The reason of this post is not to start an argument about the ethics of labor substitution. It is just a FYI post to explain the seemingly inexplicable. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Not completely agreed. Same as people filed in EB2 - no more qualified just better luck that their employers agreed and job description fit with EB2. Unlucky people like me got into EB3. I say EB2 are clogging....
This will take us to nowhere. Lets concentrate on something positive like recapture.
It is those substituted labors which are clogging the pipelines now. Just think, last month EB3-I stood at November 2001. Now it is completely unavailable. It can�t possibly be because so many pending labors with such old priority dates suddenly got cleared this month, and beneficiary of these labors filed 140+485 together. I seriously doubt that a candidate whose labor is pending since such a long time is even keeping that GC process alive. In all likelihood he/she must have moved on in life.
There is only one explanation. These labors were already pre-approved. It is the attached I-140 on these labors that are getting approved rapidly. And the subsequent I-485 petitions on these applications are depleting the visa numbers.
The reason of this post is not to start an argument about the ethics of labor substitution. It is just a FYI post to explain the seemingly inexplicable. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Not completely agreed. Same as people filed in EB2 - no more qualified just better luck that their employers agreed and job description fit with EB2. Unlucky people like me got into EB3. I say EB2 are clogging....
This will take us to nowhere. Lets concentrate on something positive like recapture.
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senthil1
07-10 12:28 PM
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
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rameshvaid
03-08 10:52 PM
I pledge $ 100.00. Pls. let me know how and where to send..GOOD LUCK...
RV
Pls. excuse my ignorance and post the method/link for payment so that I Can send my payment in.
Thanks
RV
RV
Pls. excuse my ignorance and post the method/link for payment so that I Can send my payment in.
Thanks
RV
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shreekhand
08-26 11:27 AM
Actually, it has been mentioned several times since past few years that the RD that you see online is infact the ND. This is NOT the date the the CLAIMS3 system sorts by. Whether it takes 2 days for someone to enter the data or 2 months the RD date is fixed - it is the date they receive your application. While entering data they look at this received date stamp and enter that as RD.
Many National Customer Service (call center employees) only go by what they and you see online and hence give your ND as RD. The ND by far carries no value for sorting and priority purposes.
Majority of IIO's at service centers will mention RD as the date of relevance as they look directly into the CLAIMS system and are better informed than call center employees or Infopass IIO's !
I really hope that clears the confusion....
sdrblr,
Are you sure you were talking to a TSC IIO, because SR's are only opened by the call center employees.
On my 485 receipt, I have RD as 7/20/07, ND as 9/13/07. But when I check my case online, it has 9/12/07.
I had called TSC yesterday and the rep kept telling 9/12/07 and TSC is processing 8/30/07. I told her I have the original receipt in front of me and it says 7/20/07 and not sure where you are getting 9/12 from. She said "Oh I am sorry, I was looking at the incorrect place". She later gave me a SR # and took all the info. The funny part was she even refused to open a SR telling the date was 9/12.
Not sure whether opening a SR now will help but trying does not hurt and it is FREE !!!! Hopefully the officer looks at my file and then approves it.
Many National Customer Service (call center employees) only go by what they and you see online and hence give your ND as RD. The ND by far carries no value for sorting and priority purposes.
Majority of IIO's at service centers will mention RD as the date of relevance as they look directly into the CLAIMS system and are better informed than call center employees or Infopass IIO's !
I really hope that clears the confusion....
sdrblr,
Are you sure you were talking to a TSC IIO, because SR's are only opened by the call center employees.
On my 485 receipt, I have RD as 7/20/07, ND as 9/13/07. But when I check my case online, it has 9/12/07.
I had called TSC yesterday and the rep kept telling 9/12/07 and TSC is processing 8/30/07. I told her I have the original receipt in front of me and it says 7/20/07 and not sure where you are getting 9/12 from. She said "Oh I am sorry, I was looking at the incorrect place". She later gave me a SR # and took all the info. The funny part was she even refused to open a SR telling the date was 9/12.
Not sure whether opening a SR now will help but trying does not hurt and it is FREE !!!! Hopefully the officer looks at my file and then approves it.
conchshell
07-10 08:59 PM
Pascal ... I really admire your straight thoughts. I am watching this EB2 Vs Eb3 uproar from last couple of months. Its amazing that we are more focused on this useless conversation rather than taking positive steps and spending our energy to fix the problem. Only if all the affected people start contributing money, start organizing the state chapters, and start participating in the IV activities .. we will see some light at the end of the tunnel. It purplexes me that people use this forum to start war of words, just to keep them busy, but seldom use the forum to unite themselves and fight for the cause.
Please ... I do not want to offend people, just urging everyone to think really hard to solve the problem.
Please ... I do not want to offend people, just urging everyone to think really hard to solve the problem.
santb1975
11-17 03:06 PM
Hope your India tip was fun Gopal. SanDiego event was a great success. We got over 150 new people sign up. We have to get the new members engaged in different IV activities now.
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